Bocciato anche tu.bellavista ha scritto:In American Pie si giocava abbondantemente sulla battuta Mother Fucker. Che in inglese è come dire: "vaffanculo" ma che ovviamente non viene usato da noi (a nessuno diresti fotti madre).
Quindi la gag stava che Stiffler diceva al tipo: "mother fucker" e quello rispondeva "si la tua".
ecc. ecc.
Nella traduzione questa gag è ovviamente andata persa, per l'impossibilità di tradurre la battuta in "fotti madre"
"Mother fucker" NON vuol dire "vaffanculo" (that would be FUCK YOU) (francese: va te faire foutre)
"Mother fucker" e' un parolaccia, letteralmente "mother" (madre) e "fucker" (scopatore, fottitore). Cioe' uno che fotterebbe sua propria madre.
Ma l'intesa e' questa : Rather, it refers to a mean, despicable, or vicious person, or any particularly difficult or frustrating situation
Cioe' dare del "motherfucker" a una persona non e' per mandaerlo a quel paese, ma dire che lui e' una persona meschina, ecc
per altro viene spiegato qui:
Motherfucker (also contracted forms mother and mofo and, phonetically, in African-American vernacular speech, muthafucka) is a common insult and profanity in the English language and is widely considered obscene and inappropriate. By virtue of its history of usage, motherfucker generally is regarded as African-American in origin. Literally, it accuses one of violating, perhaps, the oldest taboo known to humankind, incest. However, as with most epithets, its use is pejorative, rather than literal. Historically, it was a vicious taunt, a damning insult -- and a veiled allusion to the destruction of black male familial hegemony under chattel slavery. The power of the word was that it attacked one's sense of manhood. Regardless of its historical or cultural context, however, many consider motherfucker the mother of all curse words. The cause of countless barroom brawls and streetfights, it is purported to have sparked at least one prison riot.
Motherfucker has taken on additional meanings through continued use, its evolution being shaped primarily by, again, the African-American community. It has come to mean a formidable or inexorable force, as in the threat: "Payback is a bitch, but revenge is a muthafucka." It is also an expression of disgust or contempt: "Now, ain't that a muthafucka!" Motherfucker also has come to be used in some circles as a general pronoun.
The initials M.F. became a common, more polite substitute for motherfucker, as did the term Maryland farmer in the 1960s and 1970s. The result is an oft-recounted, if somewhat apocryphal, tale of the clueless Maryland Farmers Association writing a letter of protest to a prominent African-American in the news. It seems he called a Capitol Hill politician a "jive Maryland farmer," and the association's members were mightily offended.
The growing use of motherfucker in American popular culture may mean the term through time has become less offensive to some, but some see its increasing ubiquity as a sign of the general coarsening of American society.
(urban dictionary: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... her+fucker )
e anche qui: http://english.stackexchange.com/questi ... motherf-er
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9imRk3N2kS4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0LBi1MHoaU
Tempo fa in molti film di Nacho Vidal lui diceva spesso MF (ma non so se veramente lui capiva perche' lo diceva; chisa puo darsi ha indigestito
troppi film di Bruce Willis e Samuel L. Jackson)
